Male & Wannabe

Treetop8192

I've been having fantasies for years about having my right arm amputated. I'm left handed, at or even including my shoulder. I also have been having a fanasy of meeting a girl who would also want to be an arm amputee. Is this weird? (for some reason I can't 'register a screen name)

kooks3765 · kooks3765

Hi guys, I'm a dak amputee wannabe from Canada. I would like to chat and talk with some like minded guys I always wanted to loose my legs and to go around in a wheelchair... Feel free to contact me !

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HandAmpWannabe · HandAmpWannabe

Hello guys. Firstly, i'm french so sorry for my english. Then, i need to be amputee. For the last 3 years, i think how can be my life if i'm an amputee. I look so many videos on youtube about it, i think about my body in a next life (if we have more than 1 life) and since January, i decide to amputate myself. Fir...

looking4more · looking4more

Hey everyone! I've been hanging out on this board for years, but I never posted. I'm a triple amputee wannabe (DAK/RBE). I would like my leg stumps to be about 5" long and my arm stump to end about 1" below my elbow. I live with this desire all the time, and I wonder if any other wannabes have found succes...

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Anonymous

Dear friends, After years of research, we finally found some surgeons in different country's who are interested in helping wannabes. If you are really interested in this, mail me privat. I can send you a list of those surgeons. Please contact me only if you are verry serious about this. This isn't a j...

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Flo

Hi everyone, I am new in this forum and want to share my dream with you. Since I am 5 years I have the dream to be onelegged (preferably RAK). For me, this is the perfect idea of my body. Of course I, too, have so far been unable to implement my wish. It must be indescribable to wake up after the operation and t...

master_amputeebychoice · master_amputeebychoice

Dear friends, I am wondering how far you want to go as a wannabe, imagine that you have a leg amputation and that your dream was as example one sak amputation. Do you think it can happen that after a time you want more? Such as being dak, or even an arm extra? Then I ask myself the question where it 'stops',...

snuffy · snuffy

Does everyone know how long they want there stumps to be or just happy to have stumps,I want left leg at the hip right leg below knee and left arm at the shoulder no stump.

Anonymous

I have been a DAK wannabe for at least 20 years since a kid. I would like to talk to someone who had a voluntary amputation or self inflicted. I have been searching the internet but so far unsuccessful. Please respond here or send me an email at strtr333@aol.com.

Anonymous

Are you a wannabee which realy wants to fullfill your wish and become an amputee? Then I suppose ypu've found that it's not so easy to make it happen. The doctors don't understand you, don't want to do it, have other more important tasks, or you simply don't want to ask/speak about it. I sup...

Tamarack · Tamarack

Hi I would welcome the opportunity to meet up with other wannabe's, successful amputees in the Toronto / GTHA area, elsewhere in Canada or the USA. I am an unsuccessful tried-to-be looking to make another attempt (LBE Amp).

need1hand · Triple/Quad wannabe?

How could just like lose a hand or foot without people questioning it? I cant just cut it off or use dry ice. Id need like a reason of some sort. Does anyone know any that would be suspicious and could be accidents, I live with someone so they cant really know it was purposeful. For my BIID I want both feet bel...

snuffy · snuffy

What kind of scare s would people like on there stumps smooth and round or really ugly and messed up me I prefer the uglier the better like a piece of raw meat !!!

need1hand · Anonymous

Has anyone had any success amputating their whole hand with a method other than dry ice?

Sithtimetyrant · Sithtimetyrant

Just curious, with people losing limbs to COVID anyone come up with a way that could mimic?

legs pretender · legs pretender

Looking for someone to talk and have fun with. Wannabes pretenders etc. Im 21 male usa Mississippi and women and males are welcome. Just message me @austinmcdaniel1912@yahoo.com

j271 · j271

Hi, I've lived with what I now know to be BIID for over 50yrs. As a child I was fascinated by amputees. Like many, I suspect, I tied legs up and pushed them down trouser legs. I always yearned to be a DAK amputee (the whole idea of having two thigh stumps seemed the ultimate achievement and desire) througho...

Anonymous

Hi, i'm a male devotee/wannabe in his mid 20's looking for other devotees/wannabes who want to talk or maybe even roleplay man or women. My ideal amputation is a Bilateral DAK.

DoubleAmp · DoubleAmp

Any advice people have on telling family that I have a strong sense of wanting my legs amputated? what was your guys' family reaction? or friends?

Needlegless · Needlegless

Hi to all, i am BIID suffer and i need to become real DAK I want to understand if there really is a possibility of being amputated by a real surgeon I have read and heard many stories about it, but I want to understand if there is a real possibility of being amputated really There is a possibility or not of vol...

Needlegless · Needlegless

Hello to all, i am DAK need to be, i am a BIID suffer and i want to have my both legs amputated near hips. i need to become real and i am in search of surgeon I like to talk with others about DAK and share surgeon information

quadwannabeamp · quadwannabeamp

I want both my hands gone but I cant seem to find any place to get a prosthetic without being an amputee, does anyone know one or a possible accident I could perform to rid my self of my hands?

DoubleAmp · DoubleAmp

How often does everyone pretend and what body parts do you wish to come off?

George · George

Hi, I'm a DHD wannabe. I want to loose both my legs completely. Has anyone achieved that yet? Best wishes, George

Haruko

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Tamarack

Hello I am new to this site, but I've been around for a number of years on other sites. I'm a LBE tried-to-be who is now seeking a definitive amputation of the left hand. I live in Toronto Canada, and am looking to meet other guys with similar needs, perhaps in the local region. Contact me at tamarack@hus...

JJ · JJ

Hi, I was wondering whether other people on here have physical disabilities/impairments or injuries to the limb they want to remove (present prior to first attempt to remove it). This is also for pretenders- do you pretend with an affected limb?

onetomany · onetomany

I'm a 45 year old lbk wannabe. I have been dealing with this compulsion for about as long as I can remember. It consumes my thoughts daily and I'm not a happy person. I'm married with a young daughter and I'm afraid if my wife found out she may leave me. I have tried and failed recently (dry ice) now I have bad...

Espartan55 · Espartan55

Hello everyone! Since childhood I have established this fascination for amputees. I can declare myself a devotee of amputees, amputee pretender, and lately I have strongly considered the condition of being wannabe and becoming an RAK amputee. I would like to talk about it in a mature and honest wa...

Anonymous

Hello everyone! Any Brazilian in the group that is wannabe or has already achieved their wish?

Espartan55 · Espartan55

Amigos, Há alguns anos, fiz algumas pesquisas e leituras para entender essa condição, se você deseja amputar um membro saudável. Não apenas por curiosidade, mas para poder entender o que senti desde que vi, aos seis anos de idade, uma mulher amputada de sua perna direita usando muletas e deixando o c...

Ed0110 · Ed0110

Hi all, Hypothetically speaking, if i made an attempt to freeze my left leg with dry ice from the mid thigh down, i would need to admit myself to hospital once i'd done it, at which point they would ask 'what happened?' What could i say when it came to telling them how it happened? Any ideas welcome Ed.

Anonymous

Hello. Are there any paraplegic wannabe? I'd like to talk with some para wannabe. If u want to talk, write.

JJ · Anonymous

Hi, I can't stand putting up with this now, I live in the UK and i've been wishing to be a LAK/LHD amputee for 26 years and i'm now at the point i hate my leg so much i would do something dangerous to remove it. I really don't know what to do, or how to do it, all i know is i can't continue like this... Really hopi...

Anonymous

I've suffered with BIID for 26 years and its now become so extreme im concerned i may do something stupid/dangerous to remove it. I've tried damaging my leg in the past to warrant amputation but failed every time. How can i damage leg safely but will result in amputation?

Storrs_42 · Young wannabe

Hi to all, I am DAK wannabe. I am certain about the amputation, but not rushing into it. I have been bandaging my legs with compressive "tape" (in lack of better name) few months now, but it is not really reliable because if bandaged too tight (the way I want it) it is moving when you walk, sit, e...

amputation · amputee alex

STUMP FOR LIFE - SERIOUS HELP FOR THEM WHO WANT TO BECOME AN AMPUTEE www.Stump-for-life.com Dear All, Some of you will know me, some not. I am Alex and I am a triple amputee, no legs, and one arm. And, indeed I was a wannabe. I first had a LBK amputation, then LAK, then RBE, t...

amputation · amputation

Dear all.. I Have contacts for my amputation surgery, however, I do not have enough funding. If you interested on have a disabled partner email me. The price of the surgery is 17.5k USD per limb. I am willing to amputate any limb you want preferable Leg amputation. Please only send me an email if you ar...

JJ · JJ

Hi, I'm an left leg amputee wannabe. I've wanted to be LBK amputee for 4 years consciously and have had attempts at doing it myself, and more recently I've wanted LAK as I realized I wanted to keep my knee for more practical reasons but that I really wanted above knee in the way I identify. My question is h...

Anonymous

Hi, someone here, can you tell me what it feels like to lose a hand, I mean, where I was, when I tried to move my fingers and even my hand, what does your brain feel like? You move and you do not see it moving nothing? Someone amputated who can explain?

pgm1990 · pgm1990

nedd to lose my left foot 2 inches above ankle can someonetell my the cheepest way to cut it off at home i cut the blood flow off 2 or 3 times a week hoping but my foot will not dieim about ready to just cut 2 or 3 toes off so i can be an exwant to be id like this done by aug this year whe i start to cut i shart shakeing an...

Moeltje · Moeltje

Dear all In short time, I'll have an appointment with a surgeon. He wants to do a kind of surgery. But I have my doubts. It's in the knee what needs to be removed in my thougts..... my question is now... HOW can I make sure te surgeon sees my problem?? So the only option seem to amputate it???? Please HELP...

costel · Anonymous

hello looking for surgeon in Europe for hand or arm amputee. Also would like to hear some tips about lidocaine how to use it for arm amputation.. email me: matko.jelavin@gmail.com

snuffy · snuffy

hello i would like to amputate all my toes, what is the best way of doing i have tried tornique but that doesnt work please help me

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	Somebody please help me! (Preview) Hi, I can't stand putting up with this now, I live in the UK and i've been wishing to be a LAK/LHD amputee for 26 years and i'm now at the point i hate my leg so much i would do something dangerous to remove it. I really don't know what to do, or how to do it, all i know is i can't continue like this... Really hopi...	Anonymous	1	1971	Aug 5, 2017 by JJ
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	Looking for someone to pay my amputation (Preview) Dear all.. I Have contacts for my amputation surgery, however, I do not have enough funding. If you interested on have a disabled partner email me. The price of the surgery is 17.5k USD per limb. I am willing to amputate any limb you want preferable Leg amputation. Please only send me an email if you ar...	amputation	2	2345	Jun 13, 2017 by Anonymous
	Wannabe and Suicidal Feelings (Preview) Hi, I'm an left leg amputee wannabe. I've wanted to be LBK amputee for 4 years consciously and have had attempts at doing it myself, and more recently I've wanted LAK as I realized I wanted to keep my knee for more practical reasons but that I really wanted above knee in the way I identify. My question is h...	JJ	7	2066	May 30, 2017 by Michael
	To someone amputated who can explain? (Preview) Hi, someone here, can you tell me what it feels like to lose a hand, I mean, where I was, when I tried to move my fingers and even my hand, what does your brain feel like? You move and you do not see it moving nothing? Someone amputated who can explain?	Anonymous	0	1964	Apr 24, 2017 by Anonymous
	need a foot amputation (Preview) nedd to lose my left foot 2 inches above ankle can someonetell my the cheepest way to cut it off at home i cut the blood flow off 2 or 3 times a week hoping but my foot will not dieim about ready to just cut 2 or 3 toes off so i can be an exwant to be id like this done by aug this year whe i start to cut i shart shakeing an...	pgm1990	5	3023	Oct 27, 2016 by legs pretender
	appointment surgeon (Preview) Dear all In short time, I'll have an appointment with a surgeon. He wants to do a kind of surgery. But I have my doubts. It's in the knee what needs to be removed in my thougts..... my question is now... HOW can I make sure te surgeon sees my problem?? So the only option seem to amputate it???? Please HELP...	Moeltje	4	2524	Feb 28, 2016 by costel
	looking for surgeon or tips (Preview) hello looking for surgeon in Europe for hand or arm amputee. Also would like to hear some tips about lidocaine how to use it for arm amputation.. email me: matko.jelavin@gmail.com	Anonymous	1	2516	Feb 10, 2015 by costel
	amputation (Preview) hello i would like to amputate all my toes, what is the best way of doing i have tried tornique but that doesnt work please help me	snuffy	0	3740	May 28, 2007 by snuffy
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