Are you a wannabee which realy wants to fullfill your wish and become an amputee?
Then I suppose ypu've found that it's not so easy to make it happen.
The doctors don't understand you, don't want to do it, have other more important tasks, or you simply don't want to ask/speak about it.
I suppose it'll be possible to make your dream come truth by blocking the bloodstream for a long enough period of time. Then you'll get gangrene, and the doctos will have to amutate. How well this will work, I suppose some with medical education can tell more about.
If you want to try, send a mail where you describe your wishes to kranskak@start.no. I might then send you the procedure which I think wil work. I've tried it on my legs, but only for a shorter periood of time. But be aware that there's no undo-function for ampputation....
I acquainted with your publication but don`t agree with them. I am wannabe and pretender of RAK amputation. I pretending from many years but last 6 years very much because I treat this as training to amputee live. In past live I afraid that after leg amputation I would have problems with job and monaey. Now I have my own flat where I live alone, good car adaptation to drive without right leg, my daughter is married. I have seating work but can live even on disability pension. Come time amputation. To stop blood circulation I alredy invent some years ago but if you real stoped it in 30 - 45 minutes can`t stand the pain any longer. I try to stoped blood circulation after I was very tired and don`t sleep many hours and hope that I will sleep but always I woke up from pain. I try after all nightplay with very many alkohol but I woke up from pain and took off stoped blood circulation and next day don`t remember about it. I thought about chloroform too but it is dengerous. Too much of chloroform follow to death and I fear . I am alone. If I start smell chloroform I sleep very fast but will be smell it still, maybe to death. Secound person ought take off chloroform from me after sleeping but there is nobody. From two years I curry out experiment reduce blood circulation. We know problem of scleroticks and diabetics. They often heve amputation. Therefore from two years I wrap my thigh by rubber belt. Not strong so thst not pain but reduce blood circulation. At first I made it only by eight hours a day. My leg became swollen. Now from two mouth I keep my thigh wrap all time ( except 0,5 hour during bath ). My leg is very swollen and strong red. It is variant B. Perhaps it will be success but I still think about faster method. I will try to let elektrysity power in my leg. The first test I alredy made but only one second. Next test I will make by 5 seconds but more I afraid about kidney.I don`t know if it will be enough to kill my leg. But the most I belive in dry ice. It is variant A for me. The man in dryice - experience wrote that the pain from defrosing is very hard but it is alredy after frozing and it`s the point of no return. During stop blood circulation you stop process because of pain, after frezining you can`t doing noting. I belive that man too that if freeze leg longer it reduced pain defrozinig. I plan in February or March when I will be alone after Christmas to freeze my leg at night during I will sleepy, about 6 hours by dry ice, next take a little tablets of pain and to sleep and hope to sleep by all pain process defrozing. If I woke up from pain I try vodka but it will be all what I can. When my leg begin to make black or I begin high temperature I will call ambulance service.
I am very worried about you. A successful wannabe amputee I know has given me these tips for you. Please BE VERY CAREFUL!!!!
Tom, if you decide to freeze your leg with dry ice DO NOT DEFROST IT. (It will look normal) GO TO THE HOSPITAL IN AN AMBULANCE, even though it is expensive, WHILE THE LEG IS STILL FROZEN. (Defrosting it is SUICIDE)
Choose a day when it is not likely to be busy at the hospital. Do it as early in the day as possible after getting the ice.
Do it in your own home. Hospitals have privacy regulations.
Freeze it only up to, and including, the knee. Make a clamping metal tourniquet that can press into the hollow behind and just above the knee. Tighten it later, when the leg goes numb from the dry ice.
KEEP ALERT No sleeping.
MAKE SURE THERE IS VENTILATION to let carbon dioxide out. Use a fan.
EAT NOTHING for twenty-four hours before.
DON’T drink a LOT of water. Drink only a VERY SMALL AMOUNT of an alcoholic drink, very slowly, for courage, if you want to.
Arrange things so that you can dispose of urine if needs be.
KEEP WARM with heaters and hot water bottles.
Insulate the dry ice containers from the heat with blankets.
BE SURE THE PHONE IS IN EASY REACH. Have two phones if possible.
Be sure the DOOR IS UNLOCKED for the ambulance personnel.
Bind the leg in elastic bandage to prevent the dry ice touching the skin. There will be no pain from the ice, only some aching of the muscles, possibly as they give off potassium. The tourniquet should help stop the transfer of toxins.
Sit in a chair and put the leg in a sturdy wooden box (on a slope on a low table) with partitions that have holes for the leg to go through, so that you can start the freezing at the top where the leg is less sensitive. The top part of each partition needs to be removable. Make two lids; one for the higher foot section, the other to cover the other sections. These lids keep the warm air out and the fumes in. The tourniquet goes onto the leg outside the box. Put it on loosely first.
Rest the heel on a small platform so there is space for the ice to go underneath.
Pre-cool the box with some dry ice on the bottom of each section.
Don’t rush into anything. Prepare very carefully. Take months if necessary TEST EVERYTHING OUT.
Thanks very much for your advices. I will realization most of then and test evrything except defrost leg. It is main idea and you are alone who said that it is dengerous. It I will go to the hospital with the leg in still frozen they lock me up in psychiatric hospital probably write all in newspaper and I lost my job and next live. My idea is go to hospital some days after defrost leg and tell him that I come back from holiday in cold mountains where frost my leg. There were many such coincidences in world. I determined to do it but safe and not hurried.
Thanks very much for your advices. I will realization most of then and test evrything except defrost leg. It is main idea and you are alone who said that it is dengerous. It I will go to the hospital with the leg in still frozen they lock me up in psychiatric hospital probably write all in newspaper and I lost my job and next live. My idea is go to hospital some days after defrost leg and tell him that I come back from holiday in cold mountains where frost my leg. There were many such coincidences in world. I determined to do it but safe and not hurried.
You understand I am NOT telling you to do it. I just don't want you to kill yourself, so I am giving advice.
Don't worry about hiding the real reason. Hospitals must keep this imformation secret. Tell them you froze your leg because you are Body Dysmorphic. They will not tell anyone else. You will see the psychiatrist but be calm, sane and sensible. No strong emotion. This is what I did. Everyone was helpful and supportive.
I repeat: DO NOT DEFROST (THAW OUT) THE LEG OR LET IT GO BLACK (Better still, don't do it at all)
Best wishes.
PS: I cannot understand why others did not warn you of the dangers of your earlier plans.
My girlfriend is wannabe and we are looking for more information on the subject, we are still lost.
We are looking for real information, from wannabes and ex-wannabes, we want to talk about it with people who have done their amputations or with people who have yet to do them.
I am very worried about you. A successful wannabe amputee I know has given me these tips for you. Please BE VERY CAREFUL!!!!
Tom, if you decide to freeze your leg with dry ice DO NOT DEFROST IT. (It will look normal) GO TO THE HOSPITAL IN AN AMBULANCE, even though it is expensive, WHILE THE LEG IS STILL FROZEN. (Defrosting it is SUICIDE)
Choose a day when it is not likely to be busy at the hospital. Do it as early in the day as possible after getting the ice.
Do it in your own home. Hospitals have privacy regulations.
Freeze it only up to, and including, the knee. Make a clamping metal tourniquet that can press into the hollow behind and just above the knee. Tighten it later, when the leg goes numb from the dry ice.
KEEP ALERT No sleeping.
MAKE SURE THERE IS VENTILATION to let carbon dioxide out. Use a fan.
EAT NOTHING for twenty-four hours before.
DONT drink a LOT of water. Drink only a VERY SMALL AMOUNT of an alcoholic drink, very slowly, for courage, if you want to.
Arrange things so that you can dispose of urine if needs be.
KEEP WARM with heaters and hot water bottles.
Insulate the dry ice containers from the heat with blankets.
BE SURE THE PHONE IS IN EASY REACH. Have two phones if possible.
Be sure the DOOR IS UNLOCKED for the ambulance personnel.
Bind the leg in elastic bandage to prevent the dry ice touching the skin. There will be no pain from the ice, only some aching of the muscles, possibly as they give off potassium. The tourniquet should help stop the transfer of toxins.
Sit in a chair and put the leg in a sturdy wooden box (on a slope on a low table) with partitions that have holes for the leg to go through, so that you can start the freezing at the top where the leg is less sensitive. The top part of each partition needs to be removable. Make two lids; one for the higher foot section, the other to cover the other sections. These lids keep the warm air out and the fumes in. The tourniquet goes onto the leg outside the box. Put it on loosely first.
Rest the heel on a small platform so there is space for the ice to go underneath.
Pre-cool the box with some dry ice on the bottom of each section.
Dont rush into anything. Prepare very carefully. Take months if necessary TEST EVERYTHING OUT.
I very much appreciate this kind of advise, you do make some good points that could save somebody's life someday so it's not a waste of breath as someone said it was. I personally have my plans for early next year and am absorbing every bit of information to consider that I can before my day comes. I take much of it with a grain of salt and am relying more on a couple good friends in the medical field whom I've opened up to about this, and while they aren't going to directly assist me with the actual process they are reluctantly assisting with suggestions to do it the safest way possible as I've made it clear that it's inevitable. I will, however, have the direct assistance of my fiance who sees how much this affects my life and is very supportive of my decision. I have also been working with a therapist whom I can be open with, and having treated other patients with other types of identity issues he knows how deeply rooted this is and knows all he can do is be supportive and hope for my safety when the time comes.
I don't mean to be confrontational but with all due respect you must have been brought to this site for some reason, be it curiosity or you deal with BIID yourself. Either way there is a tremendous burdon that those of us who deal with this carry. It has affected every day of my life since childhood, it has defined who I am today now in my 30's and has molded the lifestyle I live just waiting for that perfect time which I can finally achieve what it is I want. It's not a simple matter of getting over it, or 'not doing it'...it never goes away, its always on my mind every minute of every day, its consuming, its overwhelming...as far as I'm concerned this is quite literally a disease that has almost killed me in the past by dragging me to such desparate levels of emotional breakdown I've stood at deaths door ready to walk through it just to end the misery of not being happy with myself the way I am.
I never asked for this. I don't want to be this way, but it's the hand I've been delt in life. I just want it over with now, put the psychological burdon behind me and finally be able to move on with my life. I am ready to tackle any new physical challenges I may encounter. I know there is no going back, it will be that way for the rest of my life...I've devoted my life to anticipating the lifestyle, everything I do every day I think about how it will be after...there is very little I can't find a work around for. It took a tremendous amount of strength and desparation to make that decision to set a date, and open up to a few of those in my life about it. It's not a decision I take lightly. I know the risks involved, I know I might even die doing it but you can only imagine the hold this has on me to be at this point. It also took every factor of my life coming together perfectly to decide the time is right, from my career, to my relationship, to my financial stability and living situation. I've built my career and hobbies in such a way that I can continue to thrive and be very successful and live a very fulfilling life as a bilateral amputee.
I suspect many who deal with this condition keep quiet, they lurk in the shadows in silence lost and confused. They rely on only reading forums like this for a sense of comfort, a sense of hope and an attempt to understand it all but terrified to speak...your voice is being heard. Dont ever hesitate to help advise someone on a subject like this, because be they legit or not someone is paying attention. Many don't have support, or anyone to talk to and might try to do whatever it takes...at least they can get something valuable to work with to reduce the risk of death. Thank you.
-- Edited by Michael on Wednesday 28th of March 2018 03:10:34 AM
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I am not sure why, but since I was a young child, I have had always fantasized about becoming a left leg above knee amputee. I don't think I'll ever go through with attempting it, but if I ever was in an accident that resulted in amputation, I wouldn't complain.